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Black Widow spiders inhabit most of the warmer regions of the world to a latitude of about 45 degrees N. and S. They occur throughout all four deserts of the American Southwest.
Related Species
Widow spiders (Genus Latrodectus) are the best known and largest of the Cobweb Weavers (Family Therididae). All widows are venomous, though not all can cause injury to humans. Black Widows comprise about six species and inhabit most of the warmer regions of the world to a latitude of about 45 degrees N.
The female black widow spider, though it is the most venomous spider in North America, seldom causes death as it injects a very small amount of poison when it bites. Reports indicate human mortality at well less than 1% from black widow spider bites. Anyone bitten by a black widow spider should seek medical care. Black widow spiders are common around wood piles, and are frequently encountered when homeowners carry firewood into the house.
They are also found under eaves, in boxes, outdoor toilets, meter boxes, and other unbothered places.
Black widows have a distinctive round shiny black abdomen with red
markings usually under its abdomen. They are a small spider with
thin legs and the female's abdomen becomes larger just before laying
her egg sac. Males are considerably smaller and usually not as
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5 July, 2010:
I have used your site several times in the past few years to help me with spider id. For some reason I became semi-arachnophobic during my second pregnancy! Anyway, I thank you for your time and efforts! Your site is a terrific resource! I was going to feed my cat tonight and met up with this spider in my garage. I figured since he/she was posing, I would take a few pics in hopes that you could tell me it’s NOT a black widow… although I am afraid it may be.
Thanks again!
Lauren in North Carolina
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17 June, 2010:
Hello Glen,
Love your site. It has helped in ID'ing some of the spiders I've photographed.
I'm attaching
- An argiope having lunch.
- A black widow
- Maybe a wolf spider. It was really enormous. It was larger than a sparrow. It would have been good to have positioned a ruler or something near the beast, but I wasn't going to get that close to it.
- An unknown spider
Cheers,
George,
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21 May, 2010:
hey glen,
looks pretty much like it. i looked thru your archives,
but didn't see that pic underneath at the time i was asking and thought my example was too hairy:)
glad it's not dangerous then.
ever since i nearly took a nice grab on these (see attached pix) while bringing down the trash
i'm a bit more careful...
i'm originally swiss, so i never even thought a spider in house or garden could be venomous, haha.
have a great day and thank you so much for the replay.
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19 May, 2010:
Hey, This is a second one I found in my garden. One underneath a brick and this one in a bush of flowers. I’m sure it is a black widow but is it common in Georgia?
Elizabeta
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23 February, 2010:
Here is a really awesome picture of a spider. I am almost sure it is some form of a black widow. Since this is a really awesome picture. You can put it on your page. I love this picture. Thank You JoAnne |
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version of the redback - glen
2 December, 2009:
I took pictures the best I could. The spider is underneath the rim of a flower pot. Please let me know if this is a Red back & if so, are they supposed to be in Alabama? |
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2 December, 2009:
Hello Glen,here are some Black Widow pictures taken around my parents house in Southern California.Enjoy.............. MC
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Reply: Thanks, nice shot, click for a
close up - glen
9 November, 2009:
Hi Glen, I love your site. It's been a great help to me.
I've used it to identify many spiders that are new to me. Here are
some photos I thought maybe you'd enjoy. 1st is a picture of a male
and female orb weaver mating, 2nd is Black Widow feeding on
scorpion. I also have a questionable that I will send in a separate
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Reply: This is a black widow so I'd be
careful around it - glen
11 October, 2009:
Hey glen I found this spider outside our slider by our dog toys in Washington state. Just want to see if it is a black widow or not and should i be concerned for our pets?
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10 October, 2009:
found this spider on a flower pot. I'm thinking it’s a juvenile black widow but not sure. Can you tell me
what it is.
Thanks,
Bill Brady
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28 August, 2009:
These photos were taken in Maryland. We took the spider from her web, with the stick, and placed her in the sunlight for the photos. We then placed her back near her web.
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28 August, 2009:
Hey I thought you might enjoy these. I ran across your website and I think it's pretty awesome. I have some good ones of a catface somewhere. I'll send them when I find them.
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a lot larger than they are - glen
6 August, 2009:
Hi, took this picture yesterday of a black widow eating a lizard. This is in Albuquerque, NM. Thought it was rather strange, wondering if you'd ever heard of a black widow eating a lizard? Feel free to use the picture for whatever!!
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3 August, 2009:
Hey guys. Can you help with this spider? Thanks
Bob
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29 June, 2009:
I attached a picture of the black widow we have. She is lovely. I still haven't been able to photograph the one I thought was a brown widow (similar pic in the link I sent.) I think I have a nice spot scouted out for the black one and her eggs. I thought about the black box in the ground where the water meter is (since I've seen several in the one @ my mom's house,) but the water co. just worked on it and it seems really unstable. Yeah, I used to have some high anxiety regarding spiders, but they don't bother me anymore (I actually really like the tiny ones I find in my house) unless they're big and hairy or from AUSTRALIA (I watch a lot of documentaries on venomous animals.) I teach school, too...4th grade in Navarre, FL. Hopefully you didn't catch my misspelling in the first note I sent. Thanks again for your help and your site is great!
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10 May, 2009:
Hello,
I am trying to find someone that can identify this spider I came across today. I live in central North Carolina and found this specimen among a pile of scrap steel. I immediately thought it to be a male widow but don't know and can't find a picture.
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black widow - glen
14 April, 2009:
I discovered this spider crawling up my leg yesterday. I thought it looked different, so I decided to take a picture of it. And now I wonder WHAT was crawling up my leg.
Thanks,
Amy,
Birmingham, Alabama
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Reply: It looks like the black widow
has moulted and been unable to get away from its old skin and died
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17 January, 2009:
Hi,
I came upon your spiderzrule website and was hoping you could help, in either
answering a question or posting my question/photographs so that I
could find the answer from others that might know? We recently moved
to a suburb in Southern San Diego (about 10 miles from Mexico in an
area that 30 years ago was all mountains and canyons and undeveloped
much). I've seen two black widows in our back yard, which was easily
identifiable of course with the hourglass on the abdomen. I
once saw this type of spider "hooked" together (by the legs) of a
black widow spider- I could not tell if they had shed their skin??
or if they had injected each other and were both dead?? ..it was
weird. If you decide to post this to the website can you let
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30 December, 2008:
Photos I thought you'd like... Feel free to use this care
sheet for black widows for yourself, or to distribute!
Click
here for Stefan's Care Sheet. (1.09Mb pdf)
Stefan
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25 October, 2008:
Hello,
We keep finding widow spiders in our home. I cannot tell if they are immature black widows or if they are brown widows and no one seems to be able to answer the question for me. I have never seen an egg sac which I know would be very helpful in telling which they are. Is there any other way to tell the difference? I have attached a photo of a small one, but I am also finding ones that are up to an inch to an inch and a half (including legs) - that are brown and yellow in color, with their hourglass being cream colored to yellow. At this size wouldn't a black widow be changing color already or not? I cannot seem to find anything that talks about how large the black widow is when it begins to change color and look more "typical." I have a newborn and am very paranoid over this. We have already had our home chemically treated for spiders which has done nothing to help the problem. Thanks so much.
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27 September, 2008:
Glen,
Here is another juvenile black widow photo for your site. Caught in Rogers Arkansas USA
Craig
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28 August, 2008:
Hi..I live in Maryland..Denton...on the Eastren Shore. I
found this GAL?// in my bucket today..is she a Black widow? And
what should I do with her? She looks like she's ready to have
babys...and I don't kill any thing...but we have a few small
children around here...should I take her away and let her go?
Thanks , Maria
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28 August, 2008:
Hi! It's been a while! Haven't seen too many little
spiders at the new house yet, mostly because they don't visit
often inside (except the occasional wolf or jumping spider,) and
we haven't spent much time outside. (Summer here is pretty
dreadful.) But Mike found this beautiful female western black
widow devouring a grasshopper outside today when he went to tend
to the yard. An absolutely lovely example of an immature female,
with her youthful markings still visible on her comely backside!
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15 August, 2008:
Hi there Glen came across this lady while working on some pipes at work. Lethbridge Alberta Canada.
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5 August, 2008:
Hi Glen,
I spotted this unique little Spider on my grandmother's front door, under the carport the other day. She has a LOT of Black Widows and Steadota around her house and in her basement, so that lead me to suspect that this Spider is a male Black Widow. That, and the fact that it had a red hourglass mark on its underside, which I tried and tried to photograph, but couldn't. I took some video of this Spider in addition to the pictures - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD4_JA8bssc. Feel free to use the pictures if you want.
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20 July, 2008:
Hi Glen,
Here are two pics of spiders in my backyard... one, obviously is a Green Lynx (male), the other one I had identified by a professor at UC Irvine... I was really stumped, and he told me that this was a Black Widow Juvenile... as they grow the white with stripes fade to dots, then all black with the familiar red hourglass... So, if anyone comes across this cool looking white spider with stripes - be warned! It's a Black Widow!!!
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1 March, 2008:
Hi Glen, I thought you might like to see and possibly use
these pics I snapped of this big female Black Widow spider. I
really didn't realize what it was until after I had let her
crawl all over my dresser and get very close to my hands. She
seemed docile enough, and struck several good poses for me. I
didn't realize it was a Black Widow to begin with because: 1. It
was out crawling around on some plywood. 2. It was covered in
some kind of dust or powder and wasn't shiny like others I've
seen. 3. It was much larger than any I've seen under rotten logs
and such. After the photo shoot, I took her to the edge of our
property and let her go in the ditch. Feel free to use my photos
if yo
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17 October, 2007:
Hi there,
I was wondering if you would be able to help me, by
identifying this spider in the image. Somebody told me it
was a 'Black Widow' spider, but i am not sure. The Image was
taken in cabin i was staying in Yosemite National Park,
California by Bass Lake. This pic was taken in roughly
July/Sept 2004 right in the middle of the Summer.
Cheers
Alex
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6 October, 2007:
Hi Glen, I am hoping you can tell if the attached pictures
are a male or female black widow. It just appeared in the closet today and has
my entire family in an uproar about staying in the house. The spider was in its
web between two shoes. Any help you can offer would be great. Thanks, Scott
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3 September, 2007:
Here are some pictures of spiders we've found in our Chandler, AZ home.
The black widow is pretty obvious, but we thought the the wolf spider
with eggs was pretty amazing, and we are pretty sure it's a sun spider
with those long antennae legs and fangs! Hope they are interesting to
you, and if we're mistaken on any please let us know! Thanks! Debbie
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3 September, 2007:
Hey Glen! I love your site!! This is a black widow I
found outside my folks house in Angleton, Texas (South of Houston). She was
already dead from pestaside probably, but not before having plenty of
babies. I have a ton out in the shed but most are dying out because of
weather. Hope you can use the pics! Amber Sirmans
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11 August, 2007:
i have not seen a black widow with dots on its side and a hour
glass shape on its belly at the same time.
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15 July, 2007:
Hey Glen, Came across your website today, great stuff! Anyhoo, I
had some photos of spiders I've found around our house and
though perhaps you could use them on your website. I'm all
too familiar with the black widow (wish the quality was a
bit better) and the one below I'm thinking is a Wolf
Spider? Found another one just like it clinging
for life on our pool thermometer the other day. I rescued it and
set it free in our cactus garden. I'm hoping I get some
good spider karma out of it. By which I mean, none of the
little devils in my house, take Care,
Aimy
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12 May, 2007:
This beauty was in her web up here on the
mountain (West Virginia) She let me get real
close, for this shot... (and thanks for the
info, on the Nursery web spider :--)))
peace, Marlene
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12 March, 2007:
Here is a picture of a female Black Widow with her light
yellow egg sac. I snapped the picture shortly after
discovering her in the base of my shovel as I was about
to use it with open sandals. YIKES! That was close. She
ran out of the little nook of a hiding place where the
shovel metal meets the
wood pole/handle just as I put my foot on it to start to
dig. She actually moved her sacs (there were 3) with her
out of hiding. I'm lucky I saw her, as she was barely an
inch from my exposed skin and I'm sure she would have
protected those eggs. This was taken in the North Tampa
Bay area of Florida. Feel free to use it on your great
site. Thought you might find it helpful, as the egg sacs
are easier to spot sometimes than the spider itself that
may be hiding just a short distance away. Regards,
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12 March, 2007:
Hello, I am in North Carolina And was wondering if the
Redback was common for this area. I attached a picture
of the spider I believe we are seeing a lot of in our
house. We are just trying to figure out what we are
dealing with.
Thank You for your time. Melissa Church
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8 October, 2006:
I found your website and thought I would show you a
picture that I took of a Black Widow attacking a lizard that
got hung up in its web.
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25 September, 2006:
I found your site trying to find out what this spider I
found was I believe it is a northern black widow the
underside of the abdomen is hard to see but it has the
broken hour glass on it what do you think???
Christy
Northern Michigan
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16 September, 2006:
Glen, I managed to get some great shots these last few days of a
Black Widow, some Banana Spiders and Some Wolf Spiders. Hope you
can use them!
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8 September,
2006:
Hi Glen, I finally got an ID on that black widow juvenile I sent
you. It is a Western Black Widow: (L. hesperus). Not sure of the
gender yet. I have since had the rare opportunity to catch a
snapshot of one of my adult female residents. This photo is rare for
me because they usually flee when I get close. This gal startled,
then ran to one of her two egg sacks. Out of the shadow came the
male to settle at a short distance ,away. I was in awe to see all
this in one frame! I was hoping I did not agitate the momma into
devouring daddy. I have left them alone since. I took the photo
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3 September,
2006:
Hi Glen - I came across your wonderful spider site. I am
sending you two of
my photos for your site. They were both taken in Peralta New Mexico,
twenty
miles south of Albuquerque. The first, taken today, is I think a
argiope spider, and the second I believe is a black widow.
Sue
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3 September,
2006:
Hey' Glen, I hadn't planned on sending in any black widow photos, seeing as
you already have so many good ones posted. But these came out pretty good and
include a male. Found these under a patio table and transferred them to a ten
gal aquarium for picture taking. Interesting note; they had been in the tank for
less than ten minutes when, on a whim, I caught a moth [it was night and there
were many about] and offered it to the female. It instantly started wrapping it
in web and was shortly feeding on it, odd that...Anyway,use them if you like.
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27 August, 2006:
Glen, I found this spider living by my pool filter. I
thought it might be a black widow, however, it does not have the traditional
red hourglass shape. Here is a photo, can you identify this spider? Rich ,
New Jersey
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27 August, 2006:
I have many of these in my yard. They share the web with the obvious
adult mature females, although they are out in the daylight. They hang upside
down in the
web. I only see the black females after dark. Are these much smaller ones males
or imature females?
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13 August, 2006:
Glen, Thought I would share a couple of
photos I have taken over the last few days where I live
in West Central Georgia, USA. Your site has been so
helpful in identifying some of the spiders I have
encountered recently. Attached are photos I took of a
Brown Widow, Black Widow, and a Green Lynx. I hope you
can use them.
- Jason
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3 July, 2006:
Black Widow with Egg-Rich Swanner
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28 June, 2006:
You can use it for your site if you would like
Best Regards,
Todd Avery
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1 June, 2006:
From today Black Widow takes Bee-Rich Swanner
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1 February, 2006:
Glen- Ursula, our pet Black Widow had babies. They are about
two days old.
Here are photos next to an American dime.
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18 December, 2005:
Took these about 10 minutes ago- caught her here in our outdoor shed in
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7 December, 2005:.
I also found this northern black widow which i thought was cool. feel free
to use them on your web page if you feel like it. I love
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21 November, 2005:
Glen can you use any of these Black Widow shots? I tried to get more full
spider only pics.-Rich |
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13 November, 2005:
cool site! I have a female black widow living in my bathroom. I'd like to
capture her & release her somewhere, & would like suggestions on how best to
accomplish this. meanwhile, what can I feed her? no flies around & I'm keeping
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11 November, 2005:
Another Reply: With regards to the response by Jim to the
spider on September 15, 2005, I thought I'd send a few pictures of
the black widow I found without the hourglass marking on the
underside. I don't know if you can use this at all, but if so, I'm
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site is certainly informative and interesting, although the weird
stuff I come across now and then, I can never seem to find, seems
there are tons of spiders here in Ohio that haven't been classified
yet, oh well. Any rate, there was one thing I noticed you posted and
I think you should be aware of it, less someone thinks the pretty
shiny large black spider crawling out of their newspaper is harmless
because it doesn't have a red hourglass. The northern black widow
found in my area can have no discernible red mark or marks on the
underside at all. I have found a couple in my 1920s home, one on my
porch, in newspapers I brought in to start fire and the other
outside in an old camper, I am vary familiar with widows and am not
a novice, I have caught many in Florida while visiting there (they
did have an hourglass of course) and I have since learned they can
have a slight yellowish mark also, but have never seen this first
hand. This is in reply to this you posted, again, nice site, thanks,
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Widow, probably Latrodectus mactans. I cannot be sure without seeing
the red hourglass shape found on the underbelly, but Black Widow
bites are medically significant, so be careful.
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15 September, 2005:
Hi I was just wondering if you know what kind of spider this
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21 September, 2005:
Here’s a couple more widow pics. Also, forwarded a picture of
a large, unknown spider. Possibly Carolina wolf? Quite large – would estimate 4”
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12 September, 2005:
Here's some great photos from Rich Swanner. All
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14 August, 2005:
i am also raising a reproducing female Black Widow, she had
one of her three egg sacs open today somewhere between 200 to 350
babies. i also have numerous photos of her, egg sacs, sac building, egg laying,
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19 July, 2005:
Just thought you may want these “beauties”for your website (which is
great by the way).
House under construction in what WAS country –so, not unexpected.
San Antonio, Texas
Appears to be Black Widows – no questionthat the pair is a male and
female. The single one is unusual – its webis on the porch over 10’
high. I’ll try to get better photos – didn’twant to disturb to get
the hourglass – but it is there (didn’t havethe camera at the
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15 May, 2005:
My kids found a spider outside and it was in our chair. I thought it was a black
widow it had the red hour glass on its belly and on its back there were yellow
markings. I can not seem to find it on the internet anywhere to learn more about
it. I did take pictures of it and I will attach it to the email. Hope you
can help me out some. (To me they look a little like a brown widow.) Thank
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23 October, 2004:
Found this Widow in my garage, next morning, a scorpion decided to join the
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15 October, 2004:
I'm sending you my best spider pics from the last couple months. Thought you
might like to have them for your image library, maybe display a couple in the
"known" spider pages. I'm getting better at capturing close-ups. One of these
days I'll get a real good shot of that Jumper. Until then... Keep up the good
work, I love your site! Cheers, Terry Lucas, Lakewood, Ca.
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14 October, 2004:
My name is Irish Jordan. I found this spider in my back
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October, 2004:
Hi there, I wonder if you can help. Whilst on a recent
holiday to Sarawak Borneo we came across a lot of these spiders. They varied in
size from approximately 1 inch to 2inches. I have tried to look it up in
various guide books but not yet identified it, the nearest I get is a Black
widow, But this has whitish stripes as you can see. I thank you in anticipation
for any help give. Kind Regards, Steve. P.S. please us photo freely. |
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1 September,
2004:
Hi Glen,
I ran across this site while trying to identify an infestation of
spiders at my house. It appears to be a juvenile black widow with
the hourglass but we still haven’t found any black ones. We’ve found
about a dozen of these and few variations of this but I was hoping
to confirm if this is a black or not? Also do you have any ideas on
the best way to get rid of this type of infestation?
Thanks so much,
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26 August, 2004:
Glen,
I have a few photos of what I thought was a red back but
(though slightly disappointed) found that this is a common
coloration of black widows in the United States. Regardless a
lot of work went into photographing the markings so they
should go somewhere! Images can be taken from http://incertaesedis.com
(rather than email them to you and fill your
mail box).
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22 August, 2004: Glenn- About 6-7
weeks ago my pop was- cleaning our back patio and found a brownish
spider w/interesting markings that we had never seen before. So we
got on the internet and found your web site w/the awesome photos. We
determined
that our brownish spider was either a male black widow or a young
female black widow. We decided to feed it and watch it for a while.
Pop put the spider in a small jar & fed it flies he caught. About 2
weeks later our brown spider shed its skin and was definitely a
small female black widow. We were surprised to see that it shed its
skin and couldn't find anything/photos on the internet about spiders
shedding their skin. So have
kept her and fed her in her new "skippy peanut butter jar - spider
condo". And she has shed her skin again (bigger skin in small jar).
We've decided to send you photos of the original small jar w/her 2
skin
remains/sheddings/moltings?, plus view of the "skippy peanut butter
condo"
and then a close up of her red markings.
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21 August, 2004:
Found this young
black widow on one of my child's toy cars left in my yard. It was
actually under the steering wheel. If my 2 year old daughter hadn't
complained about the web getting all over her, I would have never
looked.
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29 July, 2004:
Do you know what kind of spider this is? It has the body of a
Black Widow, but how
about that racing strip. These pictures taken just outside of
Whitney, Texas (USA). By the way the other spider in the picture was
alive and moving around. Could it possibly the male of the species.
David
Reply: Certainly looks like a female
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23 October, 2003:
Thanks so much for your prompt response and for your help.
It's interesting that others in the US have sent you photos of
spiders with similar markings. The thing is, this is the first
population of adult female black widows with
such markings our nature centre has heard of. All specimens of our
local Latrodectus hesperus we have ever seen around here have been
solid black once they've finished moulting and have started producing
egg sacs. Had only
one such spider been found, we probably would have chalked it up to
being a mutant adult that had somehow retained her juvenile
coloration. But as this is an entire population, our curiosity has
been piqued. Local entomologists are also surprised. I have a
feeling that the others in the US who've sent you similar photos
have been likewise surprised by errant spiders precisely because
their coloration is not common. Others I've talked to have suggested
that it's possible that an introduced Latrodectus female could have
started a colony here. However, I have yet to find a source for
pictures of specimens of the many Latrodectus species in order to
see if any
have similar markings. Do you happen to know of such a resource?
Also, do you happen to know if different species of Latrodectus can
hybridize?
Thanks so much for your help,
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22 October, 2003:
My name is Kate Lain, and I work at Eaton Canyon Nature
Center in Pasadena, California. I came across your website while
searching the web for photos that might help in identifying a couple
of black widow spiders we recently acquired. A few weeks ago, a man
brought in two female black widow spiders, each with red and white
markings on the dorsum of the abdomen. I know that our local
Latrodectus hesperus juveniles and males have those types of
markings, but these are pretty large females. One of them is done
molting, as she's produced two egg sacs in the last week, and the
other is larger than she is. Also interesting is that the fellow who
brought these in said that the markings on these were representative
of the markings he found on all the females at his worksite. Is it
normal to find a population of adult Latrodectus hesperus females
who've retained their juvenile patterns? Do you think this might be
a different species that's gotten established at this fellow's
worksite? I've attached four photos so you can take a look.
Thanks,
Kate Lain
Eaton Canyon Nature Center
Pasadena, California
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17 October, 2003:
Hello! I was searching on the internet to see what
kind of spider this was that my husband found when
I came across your site. I was wondering if you
could tell me if this is a redback black widow? It was under our
dogs water dish. Thanks!
Krista
Reply: Yes it is a
black widow,
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17 October, 2003:
Hi,
This is my first time at this site and its great. I live in Lakewood
California and have seen so many different kinds of spiders in my
backyard. But mostly black widows. lots of black widows. So many
that I cant help feel that they high tension power lines that are in
this field behind my backyard must be mutating the spiders with
radiation from the power lines But on a serious note recently my
daughter took this photo in our backyard, and I am unable to
identify it. It looks similar to the black widow but no hour glass
was apparent. Maybe you can tell me what it is. Its shown in a small
web at the bass of a tire. It was pretty big. And in one of the
photos there appears to be two thin white lines at the front of the
spider. Could that be eyes?
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Reply: 12 July, 2003:
The spider in the photos by Laurie Grover on July 8, 2003 could be a
juvenile female Latrodectus hasselti (redback spider) or a juvenile
female Latrodectus hesperus (western black widow). Considering the
chlorinator where the spider was found had recently been shipped
from Australia, its reasonable to assume L. hasselti could have
hitched a ride half-way around the world to Texas, in the US.
Several species of juvenile females in the Latrodectus genus (widow
spiders) tend to look similar to each other and even among the same
species, the coloring and patterns tend to vary to some extent.
To be sure about the identification, the best thing to do would be
to submit the specimen to an entomologist (preferably specializing
in arachnology). As the widow spiders molt, their patterns gradually
change and as the spider reaches adulthood, it may be easier to
identify.
There are presently five species of widow spiders found in the US:
Latrodectus bishopi - red widow (central and southern Florida only)
Latrodectus geometricus - brown widow (Florida only - introduced)
Latrodectus hesperus - western black widow (western US)
Latrodectus mactans - southern black widow (southern and eastern US)
Latrodectus variolus - northern black widow (eastern US, northern
Florida)
Of those five species, only adult female Latrodectus mactans and
Latrodectus hesperus are black and have complete red hourglasses on
the ventral side of the abdomen near the spinnerets. The adult
female Latrodectus variolus is also black, but the red hourglass is
"broken" into two pieces. Latrodectus variolus also has a row of red
spots down the middle of its abdomen.
Handy references:
http://www.austmus.gov.au/factsheets/redback.htm
http://www.smallestroom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/widows.htm
http://www.smallestroom.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/species_file_.htm
(Latrodectus hasselti is misspelled as Latrodectus hassleti at the
above URL)
http://www.gifte.de/latrodectus-arten.htm
The above URL can be translated into
English (via Google):
Josh & Emily
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8 August, 2003:
Glen,
About two weeks after she molted - she had her stripes and other
marks just fade away leaving her with two red marks- the one
hourglass on the bottom and a red spot her back- She did not do as
the books and a couple of experts said it would disappear after a
molt- two weeks after a molt. She now lives at a local chemical
store and has a room-mate (in another container). Did not have the
heart to kill her after all we learned about her even
though my daughter is allergic to spiders bites!
Laurie 13 July, 2003:
Hi- Thanks for the reply- I believe that she is Latrodectus hasselti.
She molted and no change in her pattern on her back or bottom-
hourglass is not broken, red outlined by white - one circle red with
white outline.
The link to this spider is 98% match to her
http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/australian/theridiidae/Theridiidae.html
top photo curled up or open
We have bought crickets to feed her she sure enjoys her bug slurpie.
She is fatter in the back end I took photos yesterday did not turn
out. She is now bigger than a quarter with her legs extended- which
comes darn close to being full grown- which if she was just a fancy
black widow (southern) she would of lost some of her markings when
she molted. We will work on a better picture today. I am not opposed
to placing her in alcohol and shipping her away but this will not
help to developed anti-toxin. If she arrived in August last year-you
can do the math I have killed three other that were small one very
very young ones-. The redback # 4 image (FROM THE WEB NOT OUR PHOTO)
has the markings the closet to ours since she has had a good meal
her back end is not black but a reddish brown black. Where her legs
appear black black by comparison.
My pest control guy has been doing this over 20 years and has see
all species of widows he has never seen one like this. He has seen
the fancy baby spiders but the lines are usually faint (red lines)
and at this size he has never seen it with red like this. He has
seen they with gray hourglass and partial hourglasses, also the
brown versions.
Just like with the West Nile Virus- I told people that would have to
contend with it coming to Texas- Now three years after I wrote
letters it is here. My city does not spray for mosquitoes- City of
Austin does. The City of Round Rock does not and the mosquitoes
(where we live) are the size of small birds- (ya- you know that all
the bugs are bigger in Texas) (Texas Humor). When the Mosquitoes
attack all day worse during day light than at night you know you have
a problem.
Again Thanks,
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8 July, 2003:
Hi Glen,
Love your website! I have photos from what I believe is a Red Back
Spider. I have been told that the Red Back is the second most
poisonous spider is this true? It was under a rock edge at my pool
on the waterfall side. We purchased a salt water chlorinator from
AU. We live out side Austin, Texas. She is alive and in a jar, we
just gave her a live spider to eat. Can you look at and tell
me- she does not fit the false black widow spider pattern or color.
She is shiny black has an hour glass on the abdomen, red stripe on
her back, I killed one that looked like an baby one light brown with
a red strip. - I would like to know - please.
(for those I BCC on the mailing list check out the pics of the
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16 June, 2003:
A lovely Western Black Widow spider
(lactrodectus hesperus) with a locust. This unfortunate
grasshopper flew from a bush right into the widow's
web, and she wasted no time in securing it.
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Here's a
Black Widow sent in by Alley. They are the American equivalent of
Australia's Red Back Spider. Click the photo for a larger picture.
Hi There,
Someone sent me your spider page... very cool. I thought you'd like
my picture of my wee little black widow in my garden. She was about
4 inches long when this was taken.
Best wishes
Alley
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26 August, 2001: I found these
Spiders in my shop. I live in Chelan, WA. USA. I did not know they were
in the
USA, this is the first spider of this type that I have seen. I currently
have them in a jar of alcohol, as they are cool looking spiders, but I
did not want to breed Red Back's here in Chelan.
Thanks for the cool web site
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7 April,
2001:
"We wanted you to know we found your site when trying to find
information on the Red Back Spider, which we see is common to
Australia. We found a small male Red Back on the floor mat just
inside our back door. We live in southern Louisiana, USA in a
heavily wooded area near a bayou, and see all types of creatures
here, but this is our first Red Back. I hear the Red Back is also
considered to be a Widow variety spider. Enclosed is a photo of our
guest in a glass jar.
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18 June, 2006:
can u tell me what kind of spider this is thank you
Lucas young
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